I aggressively compare public schools and public libraries.
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23 Responses to “Public Schools and Public Libraries”
Brilliant video, … Brilliant video, castarchival. Very thought-provoking! This topic is one reason why my 16 yr old daughter just started unschooling last week. The censorship in schools is appalling!
Where does the high … Where does the high school library and HS librarian fall in your experience? Are they more like the public library, the teachers, or something different?
When I went through … When I went through public school I memorized information before a test, belched that information out on the test, and then promptly forgot that information.
None of what I did not WANT to learn stuck with me into my adult life. I remember only the things that I wanted to learn. Mostly computer programming and science.
So, I will never send my children to public schools. Doing so would be a crime against them as public school wastes their creativity, time, and potential.
Great video, and … Great video, and great points. You are a rare beacon of light in a world of brainwashed kids.
I sincerely regret the fact that my parents sent me to public school.
People learn the best when you get out of their way and allow them to pursue their own interests. If they have no desire to learn, they will not learn.
What we do in public schools is force students to do time-consuming exercises on material they have no interest in. It is completely ineffective.
Thanks for your … Thanks for your reply. I did understand the metaphor. I like your argument for constructivist learning. Your point about compartmentalization is also well taken, but I still feel that purely self-designed learning might not provide exposure to the very thing that a student might come to find fascinating. I love the tuning example- great way to appreciate geo sequences, logs, and 2^(1/12)! I have to tell you, though, that I know a lot of guitarists who have never pursued this on their own!
To use the … To use the equal-tempered tuning scale, you wouldn’t know it, but that is a coupling of math, science, and music, as is every single other piece of the instrument. Many guitarists begin to learn musical history and culture. Any one “subject” can never be entirely separated from the rest of the other subjects. Everything is connected.
Secondly, you said … Secondly, you said “what if I don’t like history and therefore have never read a history book? Or maybe not science?”
This relation only works when you are thinking in terms of the education system we have today, with compartmentalized subject areas. There are math, science, reading, and social classes. In reality if you were learning about something, for example, electric guitar. You would need to realize many things that can not be categorized just into “math,” “science,” or “music.” cont..
What the library symbolized in this video was personal freedom in education decisions. The three of your questions imply that not everybody will put their freedom to good use, and this is true. On the other hand, I do see that most everybody enjoys or is interested in something. These people want to practice this skill or learn more in a certain area, and you might say this is part of “what it is to be human”— to seek and construct.
Excellent, … Excellent, thought-provoking video! But I do have questions for you. Do you see all your schoolmates regularly at the library? Also, what if I don’t like history and therefore have never read a history book in my entire life? Or maybe I avoid all science. Is that OK? Finally, what if I don’t like to read at all? Do I just stay home?
Just some … Just some observations, the people at the library are there by choice. This is why it is calm and quite, and the “bad kids” with guns aren’t there. If you forced everyone into the library it would start to look like a school, bad kids and all. If you have a teacher that doesn’t let you ask your questions you have a bad teacher. That said, great video, you’re light years ahead of your peers in free thought.
hmmmm….I’d love … hmmmm….I’d love to go to your library. Mine is populated with the homeless, unemployed, unemployable pervs/flashers and ADD children (who have parents who work all day or don’t care or both) that dump the kids there as a substitute for daycare.
I am surrounded by those of school age who are reading manga comics. Hey that’s great and entertaining, but don’t delude yourself that that will prepare you to practice medicine, engineering, math and education which we need to sustain a society.
This fits in with … This fits in with what I’ve been reading lately–Kelly Gallagher’s Readicide–How Schools Are Killing Reading and a book by Frank Smith called Learning and Forgetting. Great thoughts–thanks!
Brilliant video, …
Brilliant video, castarchival. Very thought-provoking! This topic is one reason why my 16 yr old daughter just started unschooling last week. The censorship in schools is appalling!
Unschooling and …
Unschooling and loving it! My schedule is my own.
That is why we …
That is why we unschool! Great video!!!!!
That’s a terrific …
That’s a terrific video. Good job.
–Michael Grant (Author GONE)
Where does the high …
Where does the high school library and HS librarian fall in your experience? Are they more like the public library, the teachers, or something different?
When I went through …
When I went through public school I memorized information before a test, belched that information out on the test, and then promptly forgot that information.
None of what I did not WANT to learn stuck with me into my adult life. I remember only the things that I wanted to learn. Mostly computer programming and science.
So, I will never send my children to public schools. Doing so would be a crime against them as public school wastes their creativity, time, and potential.
Great video, and …
Great video, and great points. You are a rare beacon of light in a world of brainwashed kids.
I sincerely regret the fact that my parents sent me to public school.
People learn the best when you get out of their way and allow them to pursue their own interests. If they have no desire to learn, they will not learn.
What we do in public schools is force students to do time-consuming exercises on material they have no interest in. It is completely ineffective.
wow ignorance
wow ignorance
Thanks for your …
Thanks for your reply. I did understand the metaphor. I like your argument for constructivist learning. Your point about compartmentalization is also well taken, but I still feel that purely self-designed learning might not provide exposure to the very thing that a student might come to find fascinating. I love the tuning example- great way to appreciate geo sequences, logs, and 2^(1/12)! I have to tell you, though, that I know a lot of guitarists who have never pursued this on their own!
To use the …
To use the equal-tempered tuning scale, you wouldn’t know it, but that is a coupling of math, science, and music, as is every single other piece of the instrument. Many guitarists begin to learn musical history and culture. Any one “subject” can never be entirely separated from the rest of the other subjects. Everything is connected.
Secondly, you said …
Secondly, you said “what if I don’t like history and therefore have never read a history book? Or maybe not science?”
This relation only works when you are thinking in terms of the education system we have today, with compartmentalized subject areas. There are math, science, reading, and social classes. In reality if you were learning about something, for example, electric guitar. You would need to realize many things that can not be categorized just into “math,” “science,” or “music.” cont..
Good questions.
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Good questions.
What the library symbolized in this video was personal freedom in education decisions. The three of your questions imply that not everybody will put their freedom to good use, and this is true. On the other hand, I do see that most everybody enjoys or is interested in something. These people want to practice this skill or learn more in a certain area, and you might say this is part of “what it is to be human”— to seek and construct.
Excellent, …
Excellent, thought-provoking video! But I do have questions for you. Do you see all your schoolmates regularly at the library? Also, what if I don’t like history and therefore have never read a history book in my entire life? Or maybe I avoid all science. Is that OK? Finally, what if I don’t like to read at all? Do I just stay home?
Outstanding Video!
Outstanding Video!
Just some …
Just some observations, the people at the library are there by choice. This is why it is calm and quite, and the “bad kids” with guns aren’t there. If you forced everyone into the library it would start to look like a school, bad kids and all. If you have a teacher that doesn’t let you ask your questions you have a bad teacher. That said, great video, you’re light years ahead of your peers in free thought.
wow gay
wow gay
hmmmm….I’d love …
hmmmm….I’d love to go to your library. Mine is populated with the homeless, unemployed, unemployable pervs/flashers and ADD children (who have parents who work all day or don’t care or both) that dump the kids there as a substitute for daycare.
I am surrounded by those of school age who are reading manga comics. Hey that’s great and entertaining, but don’t delude yourself that that will prepare you to practice medicine, engineering, math and education which we need to sustain a society.
I give this one 5 …
I give this one 5 stars, for sure. I want to hear more from this guy. Where’ s he been lately?
This fits in with …
This fits in with what I’ve been reading lately–Kelly Gallagher’s Readicide–How Schools Are Killing Reading and a book by Frank Smith called Learning and Forgetting. Great thoughts–thanks!
Right on in …
Right on in comparing classroom learning to free-will education that takes place in the library. Make another video, please!
Are you familiar …
Are you familiar with John Taylor Gatto?
w000 Real Books not …
w000 Real Books not school books!
Excellent!
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Excellent!
Unfortunately most books are still garbage. What are you recommending?
I’ll go first.
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, Robert Heinlein